Friday, February 06, 2009

Teri Meider: property taxes are for the little folk

Teri Meider, board vice president and head cheerleader, loves to fight for tax increases for the local school district. Why not, she only pays half the taxes her neighbors pay.

Did you get that? Half.

According to the county auditor's website, Meider bought her house in April, 2008, for $318,500. Yet -- now get this -- the auditor appraised the house at $185,800. Amazing!

Those readers who know just a bit about property taxation will say, "Sure, but when was the house built? Maybe the auditor appraised a partially finished house." Not true in this instance. The property was completed in 2007, so it was a finished house as of the 2008 tax lien date (January 1, 2008).

The question is this: Will Meider ask the auditor to value her house at its market value -- the arm's length transaction? Or, will Meider cut an extra check to the school district?

Anyone want to bet that Meider says and does nothing? Taxes are for us little folk, not the seemingly powerful.

note to Meider: Since I do not like paying your school tax either, can you send me the contact info for your "in" at the auditor's office. Maybe I can get my taxes cut in half too.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Surely there is a remedy for this kind of partiality. Pitchforks and torches, anyone?

Anonymous said...

Call the auditor ask why she is getting a break. Maybe with enough phone calls about her property they will do something!!!!

Anonymous said...

You clearly understand how the property tax system works, which makes this post a little misleading. Property taxes that are paid in 2009 are based upon the property value captured by the County as of 1/1/08...there is a lag. That value was established before the purchase in April. There is usually a lag in collections. One would think and expect (time will tell) that the purchase price in April will be picked up on the 1/1/09 value which will be the basis for collection in 2010.

If the value was revised downward after the purchase in April, then your point would have validity. I bet that didn't happen.

Jim Fedako said...

7:58 --

The board apologist.

Did you skip this passage in your zest to defend Meider?

"Those readers who know just a bit about property taxation will say, "Sure, but when was the house built? Maybe the auditor appraised an partially finished house." Not true in this instance. The property was completed in 2007, so it was a finished house when it was appraised for tax year 2008.

Neighboring homes are all valued at least as high as the selling price for this property.

So, what you are stating is this: The auditor looked at the finished house and comparable properties and decided that her house was worth half her neighbors? Is that really what you are stating? Hmmm.

Anonymous said...

For sale on the same road as Teri Medier. You can buy this house for 519,000 far cry from 185,000 value!!! Look at the property Taxes.

8239 TRICIA PRICE DR
Annual Taxes: $7,553
Powell, OH 43065
Price: $519,900
Year Built: 2005

Anonymous said...

This house is in contract in Golf Village. It is even smaller than Teri Medier home look at the property Taxes. Wow!!!

FINANCIAL INFORMATION:
Listing Price: $406,500
Annual Taxes: $9,115

Property Type: SINGLE FAMILY D
Status: Contngt-Fin/Ins
Style: 2 STORY
Year Built: 2003
Square Feet: 2759
Windows: INSULATED ALL
Heat Type: GAS, FORCED AIR
Air Conditioning: CENTRAL
Acres: 0.24

FEATURES & AMENITIES:
Fireplace: Y
Golf: Y
Basement: BLOCK, FULL
Municipality: Powell

ROOM INFORMATION:
Rooms: DEN-NON BSMT, DINING ROOM, EAT SPACE/KT, GREAT ROOM, UTIL RM/NB
Total Full Baths: 3
Total 1/2 Baths: 1

SCHOOL INFORMATION:
School District: OLENTANGY

Anonymous said...

Here's a question for those who are in the know. Who is the Mr. Meider who is working in the government (council) in Powell? Where does he live? What sort of taxes does he pay?

Anonymous said...

Ooooooohhhh Lucy (played by Teri)....you got some splainin to do!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you don't know who Teri Meider is than your on the wrong blog or your an idiot!!!

Anonymous said...

Teri Meider now qualifies as an Obama cabinet nominee.

Anonymous said...

Teri Meider has forfeited her right to ever again ask
residents to pay more taxes, or for that matter to criticize Jennifer Smith for scrutinizing district spending. Meider needs to be told just that in the public participation session of the next board meeting.

It is always those who insist upon the sacrifice of others, who sacrifice the least.

Anonymous said...

2:31 Anon -

Seems you may know the answer to your own question.

8:31 Anon -

Chill... the person asked who MR Meider is, not Terri Meider. I'm assuming this is a loaded question with a known answer. The answer likely will explain the mysterious 185K valuation.

Someone is leading us in a specific direction intentionally. Think of it as a big game of "Clue!"

Anonymous said...

Oh, Julie--go to your own string...it's up to--what--50 or 60 comments now?

You're our Homecoming Queen!

Anonymous said...

I just love Google. You can find the most interesting things there if you just spend some time Googling around. Things like which politicians people donate money to, which organizations people are members of, where people work or used to work, even quotes by people on obscure topics. Add to that auditors' sites and real fun can be had.

Anonymous said...

anon 8:31
It's "then" and not "than".
It's "you're" and not "your".
And I guess we all know who the "idiot" is.
Government school product.

Anonymous said...

I am not entirely familiar with how property taxes are figured, so perhaps someone can help me out on this. Isn't the value listed on the auditor's website a percentage of the value a home is appraised for and then don't we pay taxes on a percentage of that, not the price that someone is willing to pay for it? Meaning, if my house is appraised at 250,000 the website lists it at a percentage of that for taxation purposes? Jim do you know the formula used for this?

Jim Fedako said...

8:14 --

In Ohio, prperties are appraised at market valaue, but assessed at 35% of market value.

You then take the assessed value times (millage rate / 1000) time .875 (the state pays 12.5% of residential property tax).

Anonymous said...

Someone should invite Todd Hanks to the next board meeting, asking him to inform Teri that her taxes need to be raised.

Or

Someone should ask Teri if she intends to contact the Auditor's office and inform them that they assessed her property at too low a value.

Anonymous said...

For anyone who thinks that Teri Meider paying significantly, and I believe erroneously, reduced property taxes has nothing to do with her position on the school board is sorely mistaken.

If she were "just a citizen" and she didn't inform the Auditor of their (supposed) error then that's fine--shame on the Auditor's office for being numbskulls. But she's a member of the school board--Vice President, to boot--and she saw fit last year to increase everybody else's taxes. It is the duty of elected officials to lead by example. Doing so separates the leaders from the rest.

So, Teri Meider is no leader--we've known that for as long as we've watched that bobblehead on the board. But now she is a full fledged hypocrit, forcing her neighbors to increase their taxes to fund the nonsense that she approves as she skirts paying those same taxes.

She needs to be called out for this in the loudest, most assertive and aggressive fashion permissible in a public forum.

Anonymous said...

"MINIMUM TAXES FOR EVERY BOARD MEMBER"

Anonymous said...

Maximum Hypocrisy From Every Board Member

Anonymous said...

There is still time(up until March 2009) to file a request with the Delaware County Auditor's office requesting that Meiders 2008 property be re evaluated. Since Meider's house sold at an arms length transaction in 2008 it will be basically a slam dunk, but a Delaware County property owner must file the paperwork. Any property owner or School Board in Delaware County can file a complaint against any property. The School Board uses a hired gun lawyer Jeffrey Rich to file on all commercial property transactions , but the Board does not do it on residential property because it would upset the voting taxpayers. Mr Rich has become a multi millionaire off not just Olentangy but most Schoold Boards in Franklin and Delaware Counties. He hires fresh out of school lawyers to file on behalf of the Schools Boards, and sits in his office collecting the big money.

Anonymous said...

I called the auditor office and Kelly from the auditor said it looks like it is human error. She said this was the first time she hear of this? I can't believe that all of these people on this blog didn't call!! What's up with that????

Angie said...

It's easy and risk free to blog... but to get up and speak at a board meeting or call a public official or write a letter to the editor takes effort and "stones" as another blogger put it.

You have discovered liberties greatest enemy! Apathy, combined with an unwillingness to get our hands dirty. It equates to hot air.

Jim Fedako said...

Angie --

And you hide behind an anonymous profile. Hmmmm.

Anyway, thanks for indicting yourself.

Anonymous said...

People!! The County Auditor does property evaluations every January. For new constructions, they actually go to the site IN JANUARY and see how much of the house is finished. This house was a new construction. On January 2008(by the way, Teri Meider moved in April 2008..see the transfer date!), the auditor declared the house at 55% complete. Hence, the $185K appraisal. Hasn't anyone on this blog ever bought a new construction before??? Geeesh!!

Write about something important. Please.

Bob P.

Jim Fedako said...

Bob P. --

You are the perfect example of why reading for comprehension is an important skill.

I addressed your concern in the post.

Of course, comprehension is a learned skill -- so it may not be too late for you to pick it up.

In the meantime, please venture over to the auditor's web site and read the "year built" field. Your hypothesizing is nothing compared to fact.

Next time, think before commenting.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Fedako,

Are you always so abrasive to those only trying to help. Your "comprehension skills" need a lot more help than mine. The words "year built" indicate when the building permit was issued and the contruction started. It does not indicate completion. Again, the house was 55% complete as of January 2008. Call the county auditor and find out for yourself.

Has your mind become so cynical that you really believe that Teri Meider has somehow cheated the system??

Jim Fedako said...

4:33 --

How can I be abrasive to someone who posts anonymously. Consider some of the insights of quantum mechanics from my viewpoint and reconsider your response.

If what you said is true, and I'll assume that it is for this response, then this exposes Meider as a true hypocrite.

You may not know, but I served with her on the board for years. She would regularly call into contempt anyone who benefits from the appraisal process (you know, the fair share deal). And she voted for the district to employ a law firm to fight appraisal of commercial properties.

It's one thing to sit pompously on the board, it's another to act in the same manner on your own time.

Hmmm.

Anonymous said...

4:33

Meider has been cheating the system as long as she has been on the board.

She contributes absolutely nothing to the process. She has no concept of the finances she fails to review. She blows off all constituents, even when contacted directly.

She has cheated me and every other taxpayer in the district.

So 4:33...get off your holier than thou platform that you like to get on every two weeks and stop talking down to the little people...we won't be so little come November!

Anonymous said...

I have proven that Teri Meider is not cheating the property tax system. And yet, everyone ignores that and just keeps on blasting her. I know Teri Meider personally. She is not this evil person all of you seem to enjoy creating. In her heart, she is trying to do what's best for the children of Olentangy. Nobody is perfect. It seems like all of you just enjoy "casting stones". Wow! I didn't realize there were so many perfect people in Olentangy...

Jim Fedako said...

8:26 --

To be honest, I do not know Meider that well. Sure, we served on the board for a number of years, but I know little about her beyond that. Likely, absent her role on the board, she would be a good neighbor, friend, mother, etc. But that’s not the issue here. We are talking about Meider the board member, the one who cannot control district costs. She gladly spends tax money without as much as a care. I take issue with that. In my view, such actions count as theft, making Meider a thief in the end. So, currently, Meider is not a good neighbor – a thief never is.

And we are talking the Meider who actively supports nonsense in the classrooms. So, currently, Meider is not a good friend – no good friend would do that to someone else’s child.

Regarding her home appraisal: I served with Meider on the board. She repeatedly stated that the homeowners – those in her situation – should pay their fair share (fair share is not my nonsense; it is the nonsense of those like here). And she approved the use of a law firm to challenge property appraisals at the county Board of Revisions. Now that she is in the very same situation, she does nothing. If that ain’t hypocrisy, what is?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Fedako,

I really don't think anyone on the board has ever spent "tax money without as much as a care". And calling her a "thief" is so ridiculous that it truly makes you look irrational and nonsensical. A "thief" steals from someone for their own good. What could Teri Meider possibly be getting out of all this? Fans like you?? You'll never win people over to your way of thinking by 'name calling'. Maybe that's a good thing.....

Bob P.

Jim Fedako said...

Bob P. --

"I really don't think anyone on the board has ever spent "tax money without as much as a care"." (my emphasis)

Get elected, talk to fellow board members, attend meetings, and start sitting in executive sessions. You might have a different view.

note: I say "might" since I do not know your meaning of "care." I use "care" with the meaning of "I don't care about the taxpayer." I do not use it with the meaning of "I care to spend more."

Jim Fedako said...

Bob P. --

What is Meider getting out of it? Power and prestige – both very strong motivators.

Anonymous said...

Jim,

Don't forget the hefty discount for Health Insurance.

Power, Prestige, Cost Effective Health Care, and hopefully, a boot to the curb in November!

Dare to dream......

Anonymous said...

"A thief steals from someone for their own good"? Where did you find that definition? A thief is someone who steals. Period. And voting in such a way that your government can steal from someone else for you still makes you a thief. When Nobama takes my money and gives that money to someone else, that's theft. Politicians benefit from such thievery in many ways. One of the ways is by getting the beneficiaries to vote for them.